Bob, I' ve also got a new Adcock ACS. It' s the one that Norb Mullaney tested recently. 64" 51#@28" (altho marked 53#@28" ). Dymonwood Cocobolo riser, actionboo with carbon limbs and black glass. It' s a screamer. Chrono' d 454gr 2016s at 201fps. Seems to love 65# 23/64 cedar arrows cut to 28" with 125gr points. The only problem is I' ve had to lower my aiming point about 6" at 20yrds, this thing shoots so flat.