thanks guys I know most shootings happen within 20 or so feet, up until when I applied for the permit I did not see carrying the pistol. I will start doing shots at closer ranges, my thoughts were if I was go at 25 yards I would be as good or better at 10 feet.

I would agree it could be hard to argue a 25 yard shooting was a real defense, but it can be, we own some property that is big open, and each building is 25 to 50 yards apart and one is 60 feet long. Not like if someone shoots at you from 20 yards away your going to walk up to them.
VAhunter I will look at those holsters I have no issue with spending what I need to,thats why I bought the glock and not a hipoint