i start ground level and shoot three arrows at a time at 20 and 30 yards, once i am comfortable that the equipment is working ok and my sights are on at those distances i take my ladder and get on the roof of my shed and shoot the same distances, i normally have a buddie over that will retrieve the arrows for me and send them back up to me. top of shed is the same distance i would be shooting in my treestand. i only have two pins on my bow, one for 20 and one for 30 yards, i find that shooting any further then that is a waste to me in that you cannot see the small limbs between you and the deer early or late in the evenings.