Thanks guys. So they are HPH-24's. They load very much the same as the Barnes TEZ, which I'm using as my hunting load. Picked up the 240gr for my daughter to shoot. I had her shooting the 230gr, .451 xtp's with T7 pellets. Used up the pellets, which were last years, don't plan on buying more. The 240gr .430 shoot well with a little Blackhorn behind them. We'll see what kind of load she can handle with these.