Well I have one and it sets up OK,but between me and 3 guys we wrestled that thing for 30 minutes when we were trying to fold it. on the ground in the air and Never did get it folded. My buudy took it to the spot after one fold. the other guys also bought one ,but took it back. They were not going to wrestle with theirs in the woods .Mine will stay at the spot till it rots.I cant get it folded,especial alone and handicapped. I will never get it back in to the carring sack.So I' m using that to carry my food to the blind.