Has to agree on the horses and safety part 100% anymore. 22yrs and have never had an incident but I cringe anytime anyone gets in the saddle. I love riding horses through the mountains but I actually have never had one relaxed ride with a client in tow. Horses are just animals and anything could happen at anytime.

I stopped going up the trail in the dark riding right through the elk in the dark. If you want to be at a certain spot come first light you better already be cold camped there in seclusion.

The outfitter did seem way to lackadaisical for elk hunting but I'm sure at times I get accused of the same thing. Who wants to go into the trees in the middle of the day and push elk to other hunters that aren't in your party. I'd say $4800.00 was way too much money. We've been staying down around $2000.00 just to stay busy during the recession. Might go up another $500.00 this year but after 2nd and 3rd season this year of heat and weather and elk being hunkered down in the trees like ticks I'm not sure any of our clients thought we were worthy outfitters either cuz we didn't get any elk past 1st season. Once again two years in a row the elk locked it up and stayed tight. And all you do is jump them before you get the shot. So the plight is understood on both sides.

BTW anyone want an outfitting business? You can have all the glory and gusto.