just got back from a fun hunt at sargents colo last week we had bulls bugeling right outside the tent everynite about 3 am thats a truly amazing sound to hear we had 1 complete miss 1 dead tree and dad hit a 4x4 we trailed it for about 1 1/2 miles before we lost the blood trail completely and he was still going striaght up hill threw some ruff stuff so hopefully he made it ok with just a scratch we found part of dads arrow but no broadhead but the evening we found fresh poop real close to where dad shot the bull at hopefully he is ok and back in the same area other than that we had a great trip and cant wait to go back next year clay