This morning made a believer out of me as well. I don't go all out with the soap/deoderant/detergent deal, but this morning was the first time I used scent killer spray. At one point, I had 8 deer all within 20 yards of me, 5 of which were downwind and one was a mature buck. Also, they were standing on the very trail that I walked to get to my stand. I've had some problems before of being winded from this stand, but today none of the deer ever noticed me. Two does walked within 5 feet of the base of my ladder stand. Needless to say I will be spraying down every time from now on.