ok, u are probably not going to believe me, but what ever, i chew cop wintergreen, and i think the smell works more as a cover sent then anything, i have had a dip in with 9 does around me and they were calm as can be, and one time i had a doe come in and blow out(diwn wind, without a dip in), i was mad, so i put a dip in, the next thing i know i got 2 does and 1.5 8 point coming in on the same trail as the first doe, they didnt smell a thing, and they were down wind. idk, Just my oppinion.