Well folks I pulled off a great one. A friend of mine got ahold (don't ask how)of some Rem #6 Heavy Shot and their .675 Heavy Shot Turkey choke to try in his 870 and 11-87 turkey guns. Now I've been a fan of Win HV #4 shot for the past few years but, as the truck commercial says, "The rules have changed"! This stuff is awsome! I never thought that #6 shot could ever hold the same energy @40yds as #4's did. My friend's guns (both of them)jumped up to double the # of pellets in the head and neck on the Primos turkey target at 40yds. As stated the choke diameter is .675 however, with some fine tuning by some of the aftermarket folks we will see the bar raised again to a new level. I know shells are expensive along with chokes but, do yourself a favor and try this combo out.