Sheridan-
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. But I'm only interested in Redfield. The reason is my late grandfather had Redfield scopes on all his rifles and topped my first rifle, a Marlin 336CS 30/30, with a 4X Redfield Tracker 23 years ago. I want to put a Redfield on a my boys first rifle as well basically to just kind of tell a story about my childhood, how this was my grandfather's favorite scope and know he's got the same type setup I have and still use. But if the new Redfields are junk, I'll forget the story and get something else.