walks wit a gimp, Thanks for your input. I guess im going to wait, id hate to buy an 03 and have BT come out with an 04 that i like better and wish i would have waited. And with hunting season already here i dont see myself having any time to test bows until after the holidays. I guess my biggest concern was the the p-40 being 3" longer ata and 1/2" shorter BH vs the pat dually if there was a greater difference in forgivness. But from all the post it doesnt seem to be a concerning factor. I figured the p-40 to hold steadier with the longer ata, which was confirmed in the above post. And where im already shooting the BKll im not expecting a big difference in the draw cycle between the two. Thanks again