I guess I am a wuss I shot 90gr of 777 with a Horandy 350gr FPB bullet. This combo gives me the best groups out of my Apex to 150yrds and it is around 3" lower at 150yrs compared to 50yrds.

I can go all the way down to 80grs of 777 and shoot really good 100yrd groups but if I drop down to 75grs it gets very wild, amazing what 5 grains of load difference can do.

So I choose comfort over recoil any day if I can get the same or better accuracy. Realisticly most of my shoots are under 100yrds anyway so why waste the powder when you don't need too.

I am not knocking anyones choice in loads just sometimes it not really a have to thing if you are manly shooting distances of 150yrds or less. I am not out there beating my chest that I have the fastest most powerfull muzzleloader, I just use what works for me.

To OP I am not saying that is what you are wanting to do just if you shoot 150yrds or less you could probly get by with 100grs or less depending on how the gun shoots with that combo of powder and bullet.