i love climbers with the bar in the front feel real safe.now once i get to my height i tie the top to the bottom around the front bar of the top to the front of the bottom not real tight just tight enough when you stand up the rope is tight to force the top peice to stay put..bungees work good to but dont tie so tight that if you lift your feet it makes the bottom fall...plus i tie the two stand peices together toward the back of the two on one side