summit witout any question. I have had an old sumiit sabre for years which i upgraded to a viper for. i also have 3 summit double barrel 2 man stands which my son and i hunt from. i also own to summit talon lock on stands. i have never had any stand slip or any problem like the 1 guy discussed to you. the only stand you will ever catch me depending on with my life or my son's is a summit. hope u make the right choice because nothing worse than hard earned cash spent on something you dont like.