I think the ropes(or something simular) that the summit stands comes with are by far the best item to use in a climber. I just move them up the tree as I go. I think cabelas sells just the tree stand ropes and they arent very expensive. Might be worth checking out. I also have a HSS vest but don't have whatever strap they came with to put around the tree. The summit rope is effortless though, the adjustments on it are as easy as it gets.