actually it is on the up and up and i was googling my dad to get info on my scholarship fund that i have (since he died not in the line of duty) and i came across this site where just because you guys hunt with tree stands you think that you know everything. Well 5 men died the exact same way and the company that made the harness told the company that manufactured the tree stand that they did safety checks when they didn't and there was a defect in the problem with the latch. So please learn your facts before you post.