my my where to start? see, I've been hunting the apst 3 days for the most part, no time to come back to this ... until now
they expect the POI to be right behind the shoulder.
expect so often turns into not where it was suppose to go
prepare for the worst, not the best
Sounds to me you dont have enough KE
sigh
if he wants more KE, drop to 200 grains - that'll boost his KE greatly, and he'll not get ANY penetration KE has little use in bowhunting
drockw -
The issue there is obvious lack of energy and momentum in the setup.
The broadhead is designed for large cutting diameter, not great penetration.
uh oh, annika3 isn't going to like hearing that !
I will never use a Rage because they suck at penetration qualities. Why in the WORLD would I want to use a product that will reduce my chances ?
Its like buying a 2 wheel drive truck and driving into the mountains of Colorado in Nov for an elk hunt. Hey, I'm not going to expect snow, no 4x4 neccessary right? But IF there is snow? I'm screwed.
Why? 2 wd don't have good traction qualities. Now if I'm in a 4x4? Sun or snow I'm covered.
Look, prepare for bad hit with heavy arrows and big sharp 2 blade COI heads, or at least a non-mechanical with great penetration qualities like a Muzzy or Zwickey or Thunderhead.
Why choose a lesser product? Because its a fad ?
My Spew? I call a guy out that has NEVER used the head who continues to bash (spew) comments about the head and I comment on how well the head has worked for me. I think you have it backwards there Chachi.
notice you didn't comment on my video posts?
you also never comments on the physics of how broadheads work nor on momentum?
why is that?
You are way off point. I dispute a guy that has never used the head and I'm just stating MY facts about using the head. Which guy would you think has better knowledge of the head. A guy that has taken many does and 8 P&Y bucks with the head (Snypers/Rage) or a guy that has NEVER used the head?
do you even know who I am ??
do you know what I've killed, how I've killed and what I used? Do you?
aside from not knowing, just talk a bit about the negatives of the Rage, shall we?
To answer your question I would have them use the 2-blade 40KE head.
LOL ...... and what does 40KE even mean anyway? Please explain
let me address this head on, right now
Which guy would you think has better knowledge of the head. A guy that has taken many does and 8 P&Y bucks with the head (Snypers/Rage) or a guy that has NEVER used the head?
I've got a nice wall of buck. I don't enter into P&Y or offical score, I don't believe much in make believe ratings of P&Y or B&C other than a way everyone can use to say how big a buck can be. I imagine I've killed from does to spikes to 150" or so. I've killed with compound, crossbow, longbow, recurve, muzzleloader, shotgun and rifle. I've hunted probably a dozen states for quite a few animals. I've killed 5 bull elk with bows. I've never been on a guided hunt, I have done a trespass fee hunt, I've had an unguided Quebec caribou hunt. I have a $125 a year lease in Arkansas. that's it
I'm 41 and I've hunted for 30+ years. I've been there, and I've done that, and my first bow was a PSE Precision Edge. Remember those? I've been through wood shafts, graphlex/fiberglass shafts, carbons and aluminum. I remember when 50% letoff was the rule. When 65% wasn't allowed. When mechanical heads were illegal. I went traditional 6-7 years ago and it enlightened me to what bowhunting IS.
I don't hunt for horns really - I'll shoot a nasty knarly buck if I like it, a spike if I want meat, I'll shoot a 180" buck that only has 1 antler. Score means nothing to me much.
I think I know more about what hunting is than ever before, and I know much about what archery is as well.
I have used Puckett's bloodtrailers and elk heads. I've killed with them, and I've killed with Vortex and I've killed with Shockwaves. I stopped using expandbles on my own accord when I went traditional, and I'm back to compound and will never use one again because why?
THEY HAVE POOR PENTRATION QUALITIES
that's why - I don't have to use one to know this - and you know this too annika3 but you will not address it
there is the facts on that
why should anyone listen to me annika3?
don't trust a single word say is the answer - instead, research Dr Ashby's broadhead studies on tradgang.com = its free, every bowhunter should spend 30 minutes reading some of it
the physics that make things in this world didn't change when a Rage was designed - facts and laws are what they are
people can read, research and judge for themselves how they wish to choose their setups - choose for only when shots go good, or choose a setup that gives them the best possible penetration setup and IF shots go bad, they greatly increase their chances of recovering the animals ?
I choose heavier arrows and COI dependable broadheads
wanna know what I think? If you've killed 8 P&Y bucks they were not public land where I spend 95% of my time hunting and if you sued Rage to kill those 8? You likely wounded and lost half that many again or more to the same heads. That's only my opinions based on how poorly they penetrate and on shots that are not perfect - and those happen - a Rage WILL fail you. You'll never admit it anyway, but that's the way I believe it based on all I know about bowhunting and mechanical heads.