One story to add about using the method I just posted. Three years ago we decided to hunt an area we had never been to before 2 weeks before 2nd rifle. We got OTC tags and could only hunt the last half of the season due to planned engagements. I did that method during those 2 weeks. We got out there in the exact places we wanted to (meadows 2 miles in) and I got my 1st elk.