Which gives credence to what I believe about scent eliminator products because if a dog can smell you with all that stuff utilized think about how good can a deer smell you. The main thing is to use the wind to your advantage and you do want to keep you r gear as clean of odors as possible. I wash my clothes in baking soda powder with no fabric softener and tumble dry with no dryer sheets. Many times if I have a good hike into my stand I will carry them and put them on at my tree to keep from getting them all sweat-ed up. You can use the scent eliminator products if you believe they help. I also hunt as high as possible trying to keep as much of my scent above them as possible.