I know how you feel sussex. I hunt private land basically by myself during bow season but come gun season i get ran out of every spot i have to hunt and the deer i pass up to let them grow another year or two, get shot during gun season buts there nothing i can do about it though because its not my land and have come to accept that over the years. I have always got gun permits in the past but its not worth hunting in a war zone so i didnt even buy gun permits this year. I just hunt as hard as i can with my bow before gun season and thats all i can do. Just my 2 cents