Only rubs I've seen are the small early season velvet rubs. Everything I'm reading is pointing towards a late, unpredictable rut this yr.. That we'll see some action heating up in late Oct. Then it'll die out early Nov. when it should be going pretty good. Then picks up again around 3rd wk Nov..
Yeah that's what I'm getting too. I hope not, but everything points towards that's the way it's going to happen.
Charles Alsheimer say's it early this year .
I'm pretty sure he said late this year.