Come back to apologize didn't mean to sound gruff. So many hunters are going into the woods calling all day long walking around with a call stuck in their mouth tooting it like a boy with his first whistle. In a lot of area's I think calls are overused and abused. I've seen hunters calling in an open field and then talking afterwards. Insanity I tell ya. I've called in my fair share of elk but over the last ten years I've just shut my call up and went to the elk with a lot better results. Being in a OTC unit elk have became very wise to calling. The best thing still going is a reed if you can manage it. Plus it's hands free.

A lot of hunters should have someone audio tape them. I've heard a lot of elephants in the woods lately.