Thanks guys, I have tried to give everyone the short story of the things i have tried on here. At this point I really suspect barrel harmonics. Although it is probably the wrong thing to do, I am thinking I will buy one last scope, even though i know that is not the problem. On the first scope I removed, i put it on a Remmington 30-06 and it dialed in fine with no problems what so ever. But that will give me another oppertunity to reivew the scope mounts closer also.

To sabot loaders point, my last trip to the range i did shoot at 50 yards and I had the consistance of a pie plate. Bear in mind it was getting late in the day so i did not try diffrent load configurations.