I had one of their stands, sold it after one trip to the woods. As a matter of fact, I had it, my Bushmaster from summit, and a Lone Wolf Climber at the same time(I really like climbers). I wanted to hunt with all 3 and compare them. Well, I kept the summit, sold the trimbertall(it never made it up all the way up a tree) and the Lone wolf. I will say the summit and lone wolf were about as good as a climber as you can buy, and I' ve owned about 10 different climbers in the last 10 years. The only reason I sold the Lone Wolf was because it was harder for me to climb with it with my shoulder problems. My hunting partner now owns it, and he loves it.