Well managed properties are different than zoo/farms. But if you rate a successful hunt in the killing you aren't a hunter. I wouldn't give $500 to hunt a farm much less the $3K to $10K+ these ranches charge. We have one near us that isn't much of a set up with seperate pens for each type animal they offer to hunt. I wish someone could realistically tell me why anyone would pay $6000 to kill a 180 class deer! Get on EBay and buy which rack you want for a few hundred if that is important. Means the same, neither has absolutely any hunter credit.