Well I wasn't able to go out tonight due to the rain, but hopefully I can go out in the morning. This spring with the 100 grains I was able to get a inch group, but the 100 grains dont seem to work anymore. Maybe I'll try 90 grains in the morining. Its nice that fall is coming and the mornings are cool. Hunting season is coming closer and I dont know if I have the time/money to try different bullets this season. If I can't get a closer group at 100 yards, I just may have to limit my shots at 100 and nothing beyond. I figure if I have 3inch group at 100 that would increase to 6 inches. Which still is in the kill zone but I would like a 1 inch group and 100 yards and a 2-3 inch group at 200. So I guess I just will have to play with it and thats have the fun with a muzzleloader. I dont know what it is with my luck, but every new gun I buy it takes me about two seasons to get a feel and load for it.