I too don' t understand your problems with Remington 870 shotguns or why you call them " jammingtons" . I learned to shoot shotguns with my dad' s 870 Wingmaster 20gauge, and I can NEVER remember even one time that it malfunctioned, other than by user error and even that was very rare as it was so smooth that it was very easy to operate. My dad purchased the gun new in 1967 and is still functions perfectly for me today, and it' ll get passed on to my son someday if I have anything to say about it. The only thing that has been changed since it was new was that the original non-ventilated bbl was replaced with a vent-rib barrel. Otherwise it has had no work done to it ever. This gun has also always been a working gun. My dad wasn' t much of a collector of special purpose guns, so he didn' t have one shotgun for each day of the week. His 870 was the only shotgun he has ever needed, and it' s been shot thousands of times with everything from 2 1/2" light game loads to rifled slugs without a hitch. Granted it' s gotten looser over time from normal wear, but that' s not necessarily a bad thing. It' s the only pump shotgun I' ve encountered that is smooth enough to be racked with one hand on the PISTOL GRIP ONLY. Try that with your Mossburg and see what happens. Not even my BPS is smooth enough to do that, and it' s definately a far cry nicer shotgun that ANY Mossberg will ever be.

I personally don' t understand your reverence for Mossbergs. They' ve always seemed cheap to me, and growing up it always seemed like the only people who owned a Mossberg were the ones who couldn' t afford anything better. Maybe they' ve gotten better, but they still have a long way to go to catch up to the 870.

There is a very good reason why the 870 is the best selling shotgun of all time, and that' s that it has a time tested and proven reputation for being an outstanding shotgun.

But, since you' re bent against the 870 for whatever reason than I' d suggest the Browning BPS. I absolutely love my BPS 12 Hunter and I can never forsee a time when I' d want to sell it. The Browning is the ONLY pump shotgun that rivals the 870 in my opinion, and not by much. If I were in the market for another pump gun the 870 would be second on the list.

Mike