For every thread I have read that claims 3 MOA or worse, there are Im sure 14 more that no one writes on with excellent accuracy. Im not taking it personally, please feel free to speak your mind. I feel that the only threads I have seen has been some guy bashing kimber for the new rifle he spent a grand on. I guess I wanted to try to reach those guys who hadn't chimed in to say, mine shoots great. Most of the threads from the guys who don't like them don't mention handloading, or a bedding job was ever done either.