OC, surprised you make the statement about the Central NY big bucks especially since it looks like your inthe Waterloo area. I know few hunters from that area that hunt around Mt Trashmoore and they consistantly kill monsters in the 140-160 range. NY is a sleeper state there are monsters coming from NY especially the Central Finger Lakes region. I have been putting consistant P&Y and Booner on the ground for years and with good management have seen some real beasts. Dont give up bro you will encounter a NY giant hopefully this fall!