RE: need some help with strap on stands
If you don' t mind paying a bit more check out the Lone Wolf hang on($160) and climbing stick(Gorillia is a ripoff of the Lone Wolf sticks). The stand is the quietest on the market. It also has a built in bow holder, utility hooks and brush pockets. The stand and ladder lock together for backpacking and only weigh 17.5 pounds total.