Just bought the field & Stream Primetime Lite (20lbs) from Dick's On Sale $158 Reg $229.99. Pretty quiet. With all climbers you need to practice. I had it packed up put it on my back went out the the back yard with bow in tow. set it up on a tree and climbed and was shooting in 20 minutes. 1st time with this climber, 2nd time ever using a climber.