Id be proud to have any of you up to hunt we have some really nice birds around here. That pic was actually taken be a friends gamecam, but I dont think hes been killed. On my farm Ive taken 1 or 2 birds a year since I was 13, about 16 or 17 years, and only have taken one bird under 20 lbs, our property seems to only have adult birds on it. I see very few jakes and dont know why, but I wont complain, I kinda like having a lot of big birds to chase in the spring