I agree with you that bears are starting to pack on the wieght right now for the long winter a head of them. What I am looking at is in the first pic. The size of his front legs and the thickness showing in his neck tells me this is a pretty good size bear. It also gives me the idea of it being a boar and giving an impression of what looks to be a long bear. There is no way to know for sure what wieght he would bring in I am still guessing with my original idea of the 250lb range. He looks to be a pretty decent bear to me. We also have some pretty decent bear up here with our state record being the 680lbs.. However the same is said for up here. The average bear is in the 200 to 250lb. range. It is not unheard of a black bear being shot in the 400 to 500lb range here either. I have seen a large boar up here chasing after deer during the October archery season that never had the large belly either. I told a bear hunter that ran dogs and he wouldn't touch it. He stated he lost 2 dogs to it a few days before. He said it wouldn't tree for them and attacked the dogs. That bear also was hanging around in some acorns getting ready for winter. He wouldn't come to the baits but rather walk around just out of sight snapping his jaws. A trapper was throwing out carcasses near by and the bear hit them every night. No one ever got a shot at him and though I am not sure, most likely he is still hanging around in that area.