thanks guys thats helps alot. and there is quite a few nice bucks on our land....we have owned it for 3 years and got 2 big six pointers off it last bow season ( same night i shot mine about 1 minute after my dad shot his. thats was great day ) and seen alot of other nice ones just didnt have the right shots. dont have nothing big on the trail cam yet but that dont mean the big one isnt there