thats insane. especially for the lack of pass thru's you see from EVERYONE that uses them on tv. I shot one doe with them at 40 yards. I was filming it so I have proof. I hit her good, she did a mule kick and ran off. After waiting I went to go check my arrow, and the blades were still up and in the o-ring. I was sick to my stomach. I don't wanna sound like one of those haters who just don't like new technology and all that, (im a gear junkie) but that was too much of a failure for me to ever use one (or other mechanicals) again. sorry for the rant, im off my soap box now