In 1986 I bought a remington sportsman 78 in 243 for $180. Ive killed many deer with it in all kind of weather and I never had the first minute of trouble with it, I would never sell it or the winchester (pre. 64) mod 70 30-06 I own. I also have a rem. 7400 30-06, it has its issues but its still an ok rifle...I wouldent bet my life on it in a gun battle but i do take it hunting in tight shooting situations, and never had problems killing deer with it.