I like my new Bone Collector Triumph but as you stated they charge way to much for these guns. My vanity moved me to buy this version because it plesed the eye and over rode common sense. I mean who needs a Deer gun that has Camo pattern on it? Even at close distances the last thing a deer will notice is your rifle which is tiny compared to your big ole body and in my case a rather large noggin. I don't think we should have chrome barrels or pearl stocks on our hunting arms but is camo really needed on anything but say a Turkey gun? To Camo or not to Camo,This is the question! I've returned to my senses of late and have gotten away from all the hype products if you know what I mean. Just because so and so uses it does not make it the best etc. Live and learn or pay more.