Originally Posted by
J Pike
I am around more dogs and owners that compete in hunt test's on a daily basis than you are, and many of those dogs will never participate in an actual hunt.
And no a 3D, clay pigeon shoot or hunt test is not hunting.
As far as labs being aggressive, every breed of dog can be aggressive but labs are considered to be the best breed of dog to be a family pet. (Thats why they are by far the most popular breed of dog on the planet.)
Unfortunately we have to euthanize dogs of every breed because their owners no longer can trust them because of their aggressive behavior, as well as quarantine dogs for 10 days because they bit someone, but labs are no more aggressive than any other sporting breed.
As far as me having a defense mechanism when discussing labs, I have none, they are not even my favorite sporting breed, but they are the most versatile.
And Like I said, I will get your bro ANY BREED of dog he desires, and pick out a pup for him that has a strong drive to hunt.
Here is a link to a thread on a another forum.
After reading thru it, there is no doubt that the lab is the most popular sporting breed for hunters. Pike
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1225483
Again Pike, you are talking out of your arse and change your message to suit your argument.
Which hunt tests have you been to and what dogs have you seen? Have you trained any hunting dogs? What have you trained them to do? Have you judged any? Have you hunted over any? Which ones? Names. I don't believe you know as much as you claim you know.
I never said clay pigeon shoots were hunting. You claimed specifically that they had nothing to do with hunting. This is what I disagree with. To some extent, I agree that they are similar to some of the hunt tests, but to say they have nothing to do with hunting is erroneous. To say they can't provide a tremendous amount of information to aid us in hunting is also erroneous. Stop talking out of your arse.
If you really believe that the labs temperament is as stable as other hunting breeds, you have blinders on. It just isn't the case. I challenge you to show me a single case where either a Pudelpointer, Wirehaired Griffon, Spinone, Deutsche Drahthaar, Deutsche Kurzhaar, GWP or GSP has killed a child. Show me ONE example. So, in your world; you come upon a dog that kills a kid, and the best way to deal with this is destroy the dog and move on? No analysis into what the littermates are doing? No look into the dog's genetic history to find out where this issue is coming from? Ah right, there's no reason to try to find solutions to potential problems caused by genetics. It costs too much and lowers the profit margin. Let's just stick them in rescue homes and pretend the problem doesn't exist. Frankly, this is a joke.
A lab is a versatile dog for sure. If I liked hunting over flushing dogs, it would be at the top of my list. I have already said this. It's just that I like pointing dogs, which a lab isn't. I've never said that a lab isn't versatile.
I think this horse has been beaten. I really don't think you have any idea what you're talking about and this dialog has gone far beyond the definition of waste of time. If you need to see yourself say you know something, continue on. I've got more important things to do. Cheers.