so lets get this straight, when we post pics or video when you can't see the bird the response is "well how do we know he was pointing a bird or there was not some one giving a visual cue f camara" if the birds are in view, it is "my dog would have been locked up way before then"
I'll say it again, the dogs know the difference between pen and wild birds and will point wild birds expotentially farther away then pen raised......