fasterem: I did a little searching around for you in regards to the Moultrie Game Spy M-65 on the following sites: Cabelas.com, Bassproshops.com and Gandermountain.com. Non of these sites list that model of camera. I then went into Moultrie.com site. Here they list the new camera for $389.99 They also list the same camera as being refurbished for $179.99, supposedly guarenteed working order and a one year warrantee. From there details, this is 1) a very expensive camera, 2) it has a lot of technoligy built into it. This camera can also be used with a remote system, where with additional equipment, pictures or videos could be viewed from home. One catch, your internet provider has to carry the proper signal etc. to do this. Like any product you can get some that fail. Refurbished: it is a very good price.