And I forgot to say .I told my son the reason why he should look for 3 or more trails coming together so he understood why that would be a good spot to put up a stand there during thr pre-rut and rut ,And by the way he took his 1st doe from the spot he put his ladderstand at . T he reason he got a deer his first year was he understood how to hunt them .Not just told to climb up a tree and pull a trigger on a gun .So many people at work take there kids out hunting put them in a tree that they put up for them stop hunting after a few season cause they thought there's nothing to it so they got bored with it .And then they shake there heading woundering why they gave up on hunting ,I told them they just got tired of going out and killing something they have no ideal how to hunt just know how to kill something .