I have had and hunted with both the 835 and the 870 super mag and although both are very good turkey guns I went with the 870. It is just a better gun. It is just a smoother action pump and has a little bit less recoil. My 870 super mag shoots a pattern with regular Win HV 3.5" 2oz loads of #5's and a Madd Maxx .665 choke that will pattern with any of the hevi shots shells. Don't get me wrong though if your tend to be a Mossy man the 835 is a great gun. My 835 shot best with Federals 3.5" 2 1/4oz loads of #4's and the regular full choke that came with it. The XX full turkey choke that came with it patterned terrible.