since there's no topic on WV, I'll get one started.... when I began hunting Gobblers back in 1981, we had gobblers everywhere. it was possible to hear a dozen gobblers in the local public hunting area. if ya messed up on one, you went on to the next one. it was a great environment to learn to hunt spring toms. shoot, you even had the jakes sounding of like they were big shots!!! over the past 10 or so years, it's gone downhill. now mind you, I don't hunt as hard as I once did, due to just plain getting older. the mountains are steeper these days. but when I do venture out, I hear less gobbling from the few I might hear. predation? maybe.... a learned trait not to gobble? possibly.... less birds? no doubt... I did a 10 yr compilation of kills from 1999 thru 2009... the average kills dropped from approx 13K, down to under 10K.... I'm betting this year will be under 10K easily, due to many factors. I'm not complaining, because I've killed my share, but am worried about the future of the sport, when it comes to introducing the youth to it. I didn't see many camo'd teenagers this year... most hunters looked to be in their 30s. I'm truely concerned about the future, as just like Pa deer hunters vs. PGC, I'm hearinmg a LOT of "the season starts too late"....well, I know back when I started, it was winter woods..no foilage. now, it's nearly full foilage when the openning bell rings... so I dunno. I wanted to get the Grandson involved, but it's hard to convince him that it's better than video games...esecially when the birds aren't cooperating. at 7, the joy of witnessing the birth of a new day, isn't that appealing....i'm truely concerned.