Thanks for the comments and advise the only reason i said the barnes cause a local gun dealer told me to try them out, but i have always used just basic remington corelokt and also nosler partition. Being that i live in south texas i really dont think i need such a big caliber, they just medium sized game. Im thinking about trying out the 25-06 or 308, when i shot my first nilgai i shot it with my 243 in the head.