I never said what I thought the deer density was. I am telling you the Pa. game commission stated over and over that there were 38 deer per square wooded mile even after there were record kills a couple years in a row. You can't spread your B/S the statements are in print. Look in the back issues of the Pa. Game News, and you will see that number stated repeatedly. I am kind of curious, what state game lands do you two hunt on?