Well guys whacked one out this morning. I was beginning to wonder if it was going to happen. I hate hunting field turkeys, but I crawled 250 yards on by belly to get this boy. He's a 2 year old with a full fan but not much beard or spus. I have to download the pictures. Bird weighed 19 lbs. 6 inch beard and 3/4 inch spurs on both sides. Maybe this will help.