Sigh....I think you misunderstood what Genesis was trying to say.

Let's review....

1 - maniac99 acussed me of hunting for ONLY the purpose of killing crap and that he really only does it for the experience. (seems like a holier than thou comment, but what ever)

2 - My response was it's true there is more to hunting than harvesting an animal but if there is no game around to harvest then we can't really call it hunting now can we? With no game (this is where the wolf discussion comes in, title of the thread) then we are just camping with guns.

3 - Then Genisis chimed in. I think he was also referring to the holier than thou comment where I (others too I'm sure) was acussed of hunting ONLY to kill crap.

Now to tie it all together in a neat little bow. We shouldn't hunt ONLY for the harvest. But the harvest is the goal (like Muley said) and we should not feel guilty about doing ALL we can to harvest an animal on every hunt and celebrate our harvests with excitement and joy. This also means we should be doing all we can to preserve our hunting opportunities which includes speaking up when a predator is not being properly managed, whether it be the wolf, cougar, bear, disease, parasites, or even humans. The "experience" is only valuable after a hard hunt with a legitimate chance at a harvest. Now if some choose to buy a hunting license as an excuse to go camping with family and friends, that's fine too but don't call it hunting.