I took him to the illinois deer and turkey classic back in febuary and he ended up grossing 185" as a 17 pointer. I dont agree with how they scored it but thats neither here nor there. They counted what I would call the g-3 on one side and I think the g-4 on the other as non typical points so that shifted the 3rd and 4th mass measurement up the beam which cost it close to 6+ inches because it was really palmated. Either way he was a pig for sure.