i just had another experiance to add to the list yesterday. my girlfriend is on a huge track scholorship. and she does alot of different events..one of them is shot put...for those of you who dont know...its a 16 pound iron ball. and she can heave that thing real far. so i decided that i wanted to try it yesterday because she had to bring one home for whatever reason and bring it back to practice today. so i grabbed it and threw my first throw. not bad like 35 ft. she tought me a few things and i hit 45 ft, and was consistantly throwing 45 ft every time. so i began to get frustrated so on my last throw tried to wind up a bit for a little extra umf. well wind ups with that are really bad i quickly learned as my arm poped out of the socket and fractured my wrist. i dont think my girl friend has quit laughing yet.